Thank you, kilgore trout.
I had sort of arrived at SA SA but the def. seems pretty stretched. The others I wasn't even close to. Thanks for putting me out of my misery. I don't submit them when I get help here, but I hate having them nag at me for weeks.
I only attempt about 1 in 3 Listeners, EV is usually more my speed. I ended up wishing I had followed my first instinct in this one and left it to the experts.
Cheers